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Notes for lines 0-1017 ed. Bernice W. Kliman
For explanation of sigla, such as jen, see the editions bib.
185 Together with remembrance of our selues:1.2.7
185 3043
1929 trav
trav
185 our selues] Travers (ed. 1929) paraphrases: “without forgetting ourselves,’ i.e. ourself [see 3043]. Travers considers the possibility that the king means with ourselves to suggest, subtly, himself and the queen. But “everything in this first speech of Claudius, whether vocabulary, phrasing, syntax, or prosody, makes for volume . . . even more than for real weight. This king knows how to roar.”
1939 kit2
kit2
185 our selues] Kittredge (ed. 1939): "myself and all of you. A suggestion that the marriage was not just a personal affair, but an advantage to the whole state, If Claudius had meant ’myself’ only, he would have said ’ourself.’ "
1953 Joseph
Joseph
186 sometime sister] Joseph (1953, p. 54): The king “has managed to marry his brother’s widow without stimulating in his courtiers their normal reaction to incest; and yet in this case, too, he does not attempt to hide what he has done, he merely contrives to make the world mistake the real quality of his actions: [quotes 186, 188, 192-4].
“It is the measure of his uncle’s success that Hamlet, the only person to react normally to an abnormal situation, is himself made to seem abnormal.. . . and in the behaviour of Gertrude is so much love and radiance that we can be forgiven for not realizing that this is a woman who buried a beloved husband in frenzied grief a few short weeks ago. Shakespeare has presented the facts in such a way that our own normal reactions are dulled, and if we recognize later how strange it was that we had no comprehension of the true facts at this moment, we become more aware of the evil emanating from Claudius as part of the poet’s fundamental conception of the play. ”
Ed. note: In many of his suppositions, Joseph is imagining a performance of the play, one possibility among many. The king is not always, in performance, so sympathetic, the counsellors so accepting (see Kozinstev), nor Gertrude so happy and loving (contrast Zeffirelli’s and Wayda’s Gertrudes).
1980 pen2
pen2
185 Spencer (ed. 1980): “This goes closely with think on him and explains wisest.”
1982 ard2
ard2: kit2 +
185 our selues] Jenkins (ed. 1982): “Though Claudius is no doubt making it appear that the marriage concerns not merely himself but the whole state (Kittredge), it is not true that ’ourselves’ could not refer to the monarch alone. Cf. R2 I.i.16, III.iii.127”