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Notes for lines 2951-end ed. Hardin A. Aasand
For explanation of sigla, such as jen, see the editions bib.
3281-3 but | to play at loggits with {them} <’em?>: mine ake to thinke | on’t. 3281  
1676 Cole
Cole
3282 loggits] Cole (1676, rpt. 1971): “Logating, an unlawful game difused.”
1730 theol
theol
3282 loggits] Theobald (26 Mar. 1730, [fol. 122v] [Nichols 2:577]): <fol. 122v>“LOGGERS]] “I read, LOGATS. I do not know what sort of game this was; but there is a Statute against it, among many others, 33 Henry VIII.” </fol. 122v>“
1733 theo1
theo1 : theol
3282 loggits] Theobald (ed. 1733) : “I have restor’d, from the old Copies, the true Word, Loggats. We meet with it again in Ben Jonson:‘Now are they tossing of his Legs and Arms Like Loggats at a Pear-tree. A Tale of a Tub.
“What sort of Sport this was, I confess, I do not know, but I find it in the List of unlawful Games, prohibited by a Statute 33 Henry VIII. Chap. 9. § 16”
1744 han1
han1 : theo1
3282 loggits] Hanmer (ed. 1744, 6: Glossary): “the ancient name of a play or game, which is once among the unlawful games enumberated in the Stat. 33.H.8. It is the same which is now called Kittle-pins, in which boys often make use of bones instead of wooden pins, throwing at them with another bone instead of bowling.”
1753 blair
blair = han1 w/o attribution
3282 loggits]
1755 John˙
3282 loggits] Johnson (1755, loggats): “n.s.Loggats is the ancient name of a play or game, which is one of the unlawful games enumerated in the thirty-third statute of Henry VIII. It is the same which is now called kittlepins, in which boys often make use of bones instead of wooden pins, throwing at them with another bone instead of bowling.’ Hanmer.” [cites Hamlet]
1765 john1
john1 : standard
3282 loggits] Johnson (ed. 1765) : “a play, in which pins are set up to be beaten down with a bowl.”
1773 v1773
v1773 = john1 ; theo1(without attribution) +magenta underlined
3282 loggits] Steevens (ed. 1773) : “This is a game played in several parts of England even at this time. A stake is fixed into the ground; those who play, throw loggats at it, and he that is nearest the stake, wins: I have seen it played in different counties at their sheep-sheering feasts, where the winner was entitled to a fleece. ,
“So Ben Jonson, Tale of a Tub, 4.6. :‘Now are they tossing of his Legs and Arms Like Loggats at a Pear-tree.’
“So in an old collection of epigrams, satires, &c. “To play at loggats , nine holes, or ten pinnes’”
1773 jen
jen :
3282 loggits] Jennens (ed. 1773) : “It is the same which is now called Kittle-pins, in which boys often make use of bones instead of wooden pins, throwing at them with another bone instead of bowling. “
1774-79? capn
capn ≈ jen
3282 loggits] Capell (1779-83 [1774]:1:1:Glossary) : “the ancient Name of a Play or Diversion which is now call’d—Skittles or Kittlepins: in which, Bones were often made Use of by Boys, instead of wooden Pins, (Loggats, or little Logs:) throwing at them with another Bone, instead of bowling.”
1778 v1778
v1778 = v1773 (modified) + magenta underlined
3282 loggits] Steevens (ed. 1778) : “This is a game played in several parts of England even at this time. A stake is fixed into the ground; those who play, throw loggats at it, and he that is nearest the stake, wins: I have seen it played in different counties at their sheep-sheering feasts, where the winner was entitled to a black fleece, which he afterwards presented to the farmer’s maid to spi, for the purpose of making a petticoat, and on condition that she knelt down on the fleece to be kissed by all the rusticks present.
“So Ben Jonson, Tale of a Tub, 4.6. :‘Now are they tossing of his Legs and Arms Like Loggats at a Pear-tree.’
“So in an old collection of epigrams, satires, &c. “To play at loggats , nine holes, or ten pinnes.’ Again, in Decker’s If this be not a good Play, the Devil is in it, 1612: ‘—two hundred crowns! I’ve lost as much at loggats.’”
1784 Davies
Davies
3281-3 did . . . on’t] Davies(1784, p. 131): <p. 131>“The medium, through which human wit and moral truth are to be conveyed, is surely not to be so much considered as these qualities themselves. To see a grave opened, and the scalps, of those who had been buried in the church-yard, thrown wantonly about, must excite reflections to abate our pride and strengthen our humanity. This doctrine Hamlet himself holds forth to us: ‘Did these bones cost no more than to play at loggats with them? Mine ache to think of them.’” </p. 131>
1784 ays1
ays1 ≈ v1778
3282 loggits] Ayscough (ed. 1784): “Dr. Johnson says, “this is play [cites JOHN1]. We have been informed, however, that the reverse is true: that the bowl is the mark, and the pins are pitched at it; and that the game is well known in the neighbourhood of Norwich. Mr. Steevens observes, that [cites v1778 STEEVENS note “this is a game . . . rusticks present”].”
1785 v1785
v1785 = v1778 + magenta underlined
3282 loggits] Steevens (ed. 1785) : “It is one of the unlawful games enumerated in the statute of 33 Henry VIII.
3282 loggits] Blount (apud Steevens, ed. 1785) : “A loggat-ground like a skittle-ground is strewed with ashes, but is more extensive; a bowl much larger than the jack at the game of bowls is thrown first. The pins, which I believe, are called loggats , are much thinner, and higher at one extremity than the other. The bowl being first thrown, the players take the pins up by the thinner and lighter end, and fling them together towards the bowl, and in such a manner that the pin my [sic] turn once round in the air, and slide with the thinner extremity foremost towards the bowl. The pins are about one or two and twenty inches long. BLOUNT”
1787 ann
ann ≈ v1785
3282 loggits]
1790 mal
mal : v1785 + magneta underlined
3282 loggits] Malone (ed. 1790) : “Loggeting in the fields is mentioned for the first time among other ‘ new and crafty games and plays,’ in the statute 33 Henry VIII. c.9. Not being mentioned in former acts against unlawful games, it was probably not practised long before the statute of Henry the Eighth was made. MALONE”
1791- rann
rann : standard
3282 loggits] rann (ed. 1791-) : “a game, like skittles, or ninepins, played with bones, instead of wooden logs, or pins, and a bowl.”
1793 v1793
v1793 = mal
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1803 v1803
v1803 = v1793
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1813 v1813
v1813 = v1803
3282 loggits]
1818 Todd
Todd = John +
3282 loggits] Todd (1818, loggats) :”n.s.’Loggats is the ancient name of a play or game, which is one of the unlawful games enumeratd in the thirty-third statute of Henry VIII. It is the same which is now called kittlepins, in which boys often make use of bones instead of wooden pins, throwing at them with another bone instead of bowling.’ Hanmer.’ [cites STEEVENS’ v1778 note up to “sheep-shearing feasts”] ‘It is probably from the word log: the game was so called from the logggets or wooden pins made use of in the play.’ Whalley [cites Hamlet].”
1819 cald1
cald1 = v1813
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1821 v1821
v1821 = v1813
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1822 Nares
Nares ≈ v1821
3282 loggits] Nares (1822; 1906): “Loggat, or Logget ]] s. A small log, or piece of wood; a diminutive from log. ‘Now are they tossing of his legs and arms, Like logets at a pear-tree.’ B.Jons. Tale of Tub, 4.6
“Hence loggats, as the name of an old game among the common people, and one of those forbidden by a statute of the 33d of Hen. VIII. It is thus described by Mr. Steevens: ‘This is a game played in several parts of England even at this time. A stake is fixed into the ground; those who play throw loggats at it, and he that is nearest the stake wins:’ ‘I have seen it played,’ he adds, ‘ in different counties, at their sheep-shearing feasts, where the winner was entitled to a black fleece, which he afterwards presented to the farmer’s maid to spin, for the purpose of making a petticoat, and on condition that she knelt down on the fleece to be kissed by all the rustics present.’[gives Steevens’ description from v1778] Sir Thomas Hanmer, and Capell after him, and Dr. Johnson himself, make it the same as ninepins, or skettles, which the former calls kittle-pins. They were probably mistaken, as the two games are distinguished in the same passage. [cites Ham] ‘To play at loggats, nine holes or ten pinnes.’ An Old. Collect. of Epigrams, & cit. St.”
1826 sing1
sing1 : standard
3282 loggits] Singer (ed. 1826) : “Loggets , small logs or pieces of wood. Hence loggets was the name of an ancient rustic game, in which a stake was fixed in the ground at which loggats were thrown; in short, a ruder kind of quoit play.”
1832 cald2
cald2 = cald1
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1833 valpy
valpy : standard
3282 loggits] Valpy (ed. 1833): "An ancient game resembling quoits."
1841 KNT1 (nd)
knt1 : standard + magenta underlined
3282 loggits] Knight (ed. 1841) : “The game of loggats is a country play, in which the players throw at a stake, or jack, with round pins. InBen Jonson’s ‘Tale of a Tub’ we have:— Now are they tossing of his Legs and Arms Like loggats at a Pear-tree.’ The scene of the grave-diggers has always been the horror of the old French school of criticism. Voltaire, by a great generalization, calls the works of Shakspere a bundle of ‘monstruositùés et fossoyeurs .’ But Voltaire’s criticism uopn the grave-digging scene is far less amusing than that of M. De La Baume Desdossat, who, in 1757, immortalized himself by the publication of a “Pastorale Héroique.’ He tells us, ‘All that the imagination can invent most horrible, most gloomy, most ferocious, constitutes the matter of the English tragedies, which are monsters in which sublime sentiments and ideas are found side by side with the flattest buffooneries and the grossest jests. Shakspere in one tragedy introduces a game at bowls with death’s heads upon the stage. ” (‘Fait jouer à la boule avec des têtes de mort sur le théâtre.’)
1843 col1
col1 : standard (JEN? ; v1821
3282 loggits] Collier (ed. 1843) : “Loggats was an English game, at least as old as the time of Henry VIII, being forbidden in a statute of that reign. It seems originally to have been played with logs or loggets, which were thrown at a stake stuck in the ground, and hence its name. It is still played, but generally with a bowl, and pins, (as a substitute for logs) to be thrown at by the players. It seems, in fact, to be much the same game as that known in many parts of the country as ‘kettle-pins,’ or skittle-pins.”
1844 verp
verp ≈ standard(attrib. to Illus. Shak.)
3282 loggits] Verplanck (ed. 1844): “‘Loggats’ is a game still much used in some parts of England, particularly Norwich, and its vicinity. A stake is fixed in the ground, at which the loggats (small logs or pieces of wood) are thrown.. The sport may be considered a rude kind of quoits. —Illus. Shak.
This doesn’t seem to be in Douce
1854 del2
del2
3282 loggits] Delius (ed. 1854) : “to play at loggats war eine Art Kegelspiel, wobei möglicherweise die Todtenknochen die Stelle der Kegel vertreten konnten.” [“to play at loggats was a game of skittles, whereby the bones of the dead could be used in place of the skittle.” ]
3282 mine] Delius (ed. 1854) : mine scil. bones. [“mine is as it were bones”]
1856 hud1 (1851-6)
hud1 = sing1 without attribution
3282 loggits] Hudson (ed. 1856) : “Loggets are small logs or pieces of wood. Hence loggets was the name of an ancient rustic game, wherein a stake was fixed in the ground at which loggets were thrown; in short, a ruder kind of quoit play.”
1856b sing2
sing2 = sing1
282 loggits]
1857 elze1
elze1 ≈ standard (col1 ; Drake? ; Brand)
3282 loggits] Elze (ed. 1857): "Das ist ein Spiel, bei welchem man mit Pföcken ((loggats, von log)) oder Kegeln ((pins)) nach einem in die Erde getriebenen Pfahle oder einer fortgerollten Kugel warf; we am nächsten an das Ziel traf, hatte gewonnen. Steevens zu d. St. Brand Pop. Ant. II, 426. Drake 150 und Collier erklären es als dem Kegelspiel ((kettle-pins, skittle-pins)) nahe kommend. Das Spiel wurde unter Heinrich VIII. Verboten." [This is a game, by which one threw pegs ((loggats, from log)) or skittles ((pins)) at one stake driven in the ground or a rolling skittle; who reached the nearest to the mark, won. Steevens to "d.St."[?] Brand Pop. Ant. II, 426. Drake 150 and Collier explain it as coming near to skittle game ((kettle-pins, skittle-pins)). The game was banned under Henry VIII."]
1858 col3
col3 : standard
3282 loggits] Collier (ed. 1858, Glossary): “a game like skittles.”
col3 = col1
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1861 wh1
wh1: standard
3282 loggits] White (ed. 1861) : “Loggats were little logs, small pieces of wood, which it seems were thrown at a stake in the ground.”
1864a glo
glo: standard
3282 loggits] Clark & Wright (ed. 1864, Glossary) : “ s.b. the game called nine-pins.”
1864b ktly
ktly
3282 loggits] Keightley (ed. 1864 [1866]: Glossary):”a game played with bowl and pins.”
1864 Bickers
Bickers: standard
3282 loggits] Clarke (ed. 1864, Glossary): “The diminutive of logs. A game formerly played by rustics, somewhat resembling nine-pins.”
1865 hal
hal ≈ mal (Steevens ); col1 (Henry VIII statute )+ magenta underlined
3282 loggits] Halliwell (ed. 1865) : “Loggats was an old game forbidden by statute in Henry VIII.’s time. It is thus played, according to Steevens. A stake is fixed in the ground; those who play throw loggats at it, and he that is nearest the stake wins. Loggats or loggets are also small pieces of or logs of wood, such as the country people throw at fruit that cannot otherwise be reached. ‘Loggats, little logs or wooden pins, a play the same with nine-pins, in which boys, however, often made use of bones instead of wooden pins,’ MS. Gloss. ‘To wrastle, play at stooleball, or to runne, To pich the Barre, or to shoote off a Gunne, To play at Loggets, Nine-holes, or Ten-pinnes; To try it out at Foot-ball by the shinnes.’ The Letting of Humors Blood in the Head-Vaine, 1611.”
1867 Ktly
Ktly : standard
3282 loggits] Keightley (1867, p. 407): <p. 407>“a small log of wood. Steevens, of his own knowledge, describes the game of loggats as played at sheep-shearing feasts. A stake was stuck in the ground, at which they threw loggats, and he that threw nearest to it was the winner; the prize was a black fleece. This he gave to the farmer’s maid to make her a petticoat, on the condition of her kneeling down on it to be kissed by the company.” </p. 407>
1868 c&mc
c&mc ≈ standard
3282 loggits] Clarke & Clarke (ed. 1864-68, rpt. 1874-78): “Small logs or pieces of wood. They were used in agame named after them; which was played by throwing the ‘loggats’ at a centre, wherein was a stake, or a bowl, or first-placed single loggat. Somes bones were used by boys at this game instead of wooden ‘loggats;’ a fact that renders Shakespeare’s allusion more appropriate.”
1869 tsch
tsch
3282 loggits] Tschischwitz (ed. 1869): “ein Spiel mit Holzblöcken, bei welchem nach einem Ziele geworfen wurde.” [“a game with wooden blocks, at which an object was tossed.”]
1870 rug1
rug1: Hutton’s essay “Goethe and his Influence.” without attribution
3282-3 mine . . . on’t] Moberly (ed. 1870): “Compare the singular horror felt by Chantrey, sculptor, at hearing that the bones were ‘carted away’ from a cemetery in this neighbourhood; and the immediate steps which he took to guard against such a contingency for himself. "
rug1: standard
3282 loggits] Moberly (ed. 187): “A species of Aunt Sally."
1872 del4
del4 = del2
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3282 mine]
1872 cln1
cln1 : standard
3282 loggits] Clark & Wright (ed. 1872): “‘Loggats,’ diminuitive of log. The game so called resembles bowls, but with notable differences. First, it is played not on a green, but on a floor strewed with ashes. The Jack is a wheel of lignum-vitœ or other hard wood, nine inches in diameter and three or four inches thick. the loggat, made of apple-wood, is a truncated cone 26 or 27 inches in length, tapering from a girth of 8 « or 9 inches at the one end to 3« or 4 inches at the other. Each player has three loggats which he throws, holding lightly the thin end. The object is to lie as near the Jack as possible. The only place we have heard of where this once popular game is now placed is the Hampshire Hog Inn, Norwich. We have to thank the Rev. G. Gould for a detailed description of the game, which we have abridged as above. Perhaps Ham. meant to compare the skull to the Jack at which the bones were thrown. In Jonson’s Tale of a Tub, IV, vi: ‘Now are they tossing of his legs and arms Like loggats at a pear tree.’”
1872 hud2
hud2=hud1
3282 loggits]
1873 rug2
rug2 : Hutton’s essay “Goethe and his Influence.”
3282-3 mine . . . on’t] Moberly (ed. 1873): “Artistic temperaments often shrink with peculiar abhorrence from the accessories of death. In Chantrey’s life there is a singular account of the horror felt by him at hearing that the bones were ‘carted away’ from a London churchyard. For the infinite trouble take by Göethe to avoid any sight or sound of death, see Hutton’s instructive Essay on ‘Göethe and his Influence.’”
rug2= rug1 + cln1
3282 loggits] Moberly (ed. 1873): “The game is fully described by the Cambridge editors. [cln1].”
1877 col4
col4col1
3282 loggits] Collier (ed. 1877) : “Loggats was an old English game, at least as old as the time of Henry VIII, being forbidden in a statute of that reign. It seems originally to have been played with logs or loggets, which were thrown at a stake stuck in the ground, and hence its name. It is still played, but generally with a bowl, and pins, (as a substitute for logs) to be thrown at by the players. It seems, in fact, to be much the same game as that known in many parts of the country as ‘kettle-pins,’ or like skittles-pins.”
1877 v1877
v1877 = cln1
3282 loggits
1877 neil
neil ≈ standard (mob?)
3282 loggits] Neil (ed. 1877, Notes): “a sort of Aunt Sally; throwing logs at a mark.”
1881 hud3
hud3 = hud2
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1883 wh2
wh2wh1
3282 loggits] White (ed. 1883): “a game in which small logs of wood, loggats, are thrown at a jack.”
1885 macd
macd ≈ standard (cites Blount)
3282 loggits]
1885 mull
mull ≈ standard
3282 loggits
1889 Barnett
Barnett : standard
3282 loggits] Barnett (1889, p. 59): <p. 59>“the name of a game played with loggets or loggats, lit. little logs.”
1889-90 mBooth
mBooth
3282 play at loggits] [E. Booth] (ms. notes in PB 82, HTC, Shattuck 108): “The bones sh[ould] be tossed by hand not shovelled from the grave; the former action suggests the game of loggats, the latter does not. E.B.”
1890 irv2
irv2 ≈ v1877 (CAMBRIDGE gloss) + magenta underlined
3282 loggits] Symons (in Irving & Marshall, ed. 1890): “Boyer, French Dictionary, has Logating, ‘a slort of unlawful game, now disued.’ It is one of the unlawful games named in the statute of 33 Henry VIII.e.9”
1891 oxf1
oxf1 : standard
3282 loggits] Craig (ed. 1891: Glossary): “sub. a rustic game, something like bowls.”
1899 ard1
ard1 ≈ cln1(with attribution, finally)
3282 loggits]
Ard1 : standard
3282 loggits] Dowden (ed. 1899, Appendix III, p. 237): <p. 237> “Steevens notes ‘It is one of the unlawful [new and crafty] games enumerated in the statute of 33 Henry VIII.” </p. 237>
1905 rltr
rltr : standard
3282 loggits]
1906 nlsn
nlsn: standard
3282 loggits] Neilson (ed. 1906, Glossary)
1916 Sh. Eng.
Sh. Eng.
3282 loggits] Sieveking (apud Sh. Eng. 1916, pp. 465-6): <p. 465> “There is no mention in Shakespeare of Ninepins or Skittles. Similar games were Kayles, Cloish, and Loggats. Kayles1 seems to have been placed with six, eight, or any number of pins, placed in a single row. In cloish—or closh—a bowl was used as the missle, instead of the stick </p. 465> <p. 466>employed in kayles. In goats, bones were substituted for wooden pins by boys and rustics, and another bone was thrown at them. This use of bones explains Hamlet’s question, [cites 3182-83].. Clarendon says the game resembled bowls, played not on a green, but on an ash-strewn floor. In his account, the jack is a disk of lignum vitae, and the loggat a truncated cone of apple-wood.” </p. 466>
<p. 465><n> 1“From the French ‘quilles’.” </n> </p. 465>
1931 crg1
crg1 ≈ standard
3282 loggits]
1934b rid1
rid1 : standard
3282 loggits] Ridley (ed. 1934, Glossary):
1934a cam3
cam3 : standard +
3282 loggits] Wilson (ed. 1934, Glossary): “v. Sh. Eng. ii. 465-66.”
1937 pen1a
pen1a : standard
3282 loggits]
1938 parc
parc ≈ standard
3282 loggits]
1939 kit2
kit2 ≈ standard
3282 loggits]
1942 n&h
n&h ≈ standard
3282 loggits]
1947 cln2
Cln2 ≈ standard
3282 loggits]
1951 alex
alex ≈ standard
3282 loggits] Alexander (ed. 1951, Glossary)
1951 crg2
crg2=crg1
3282 loggits]
1954 sis
sis ≈ standard
3282 loggits] Sisson (ed. 1954, Glossary):
1957 pel1
pel1 : standard
3282 loggits]
pel2 1970
pel2=pel1
3282 loggits]
1974 evns1
evns1≈ standard
3282 loggits]
1980 pen2
pen2 ≈ standard
3282 loggits]
pen2
3282 mine] Spencer (ed. 1980): “(my own bones).”
1982 ard2
ard2 : Shakespeare’s England +
3282 loggits] Jenkins (ed. 1982): “I suspect that the account in Sh.’s Eng. ((ii.466)) of bones being used for loggets comes from taking Hamlet’s metaphor literally.”
1984 chal
chal : standard
3282 loggits]
1985 cam4
cam4 ≈ standard +
3282 loggits] Edwards (ed. 1985): “A country game in which wooden truncheons about two feet long, bulbous at one end and tapering off to the handle ((like the old ‘Indian clubs’)), were thrown at a fixed stake.”
1987 oxf4
oxf4 ≈ standard (Onions)
3282 loggits]
1992 fol2
fol2≈ standard
3282 loggits]
1993 dent
dentstandard
3282 loggits]
1998 OED
OED
3282 loggits] OED loggat, logget. Obs. 1. An old game (see quot. 1773); also the missile used in the game. (See LOGGERHEAD 5.) [1541: Implied in LOGGATING.] 1581 LAMBARDE Eiren. III. ii. (1588) 353 Bowles, Closh, Coites, Loggets or other unlawfull Games. [etc.]
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